15 Strange Fan Theories Surrounding Star Wars: Episode VIII

Ever since The Force Awakens came out a year ago and left viewers everywhere hanging, fans have been speculating left, right, and center about what might happen in the ensuing movies. With Rogue One r

Ever since The Force Awakens came out a year ago and left viewers everywhere hanging, fans have been speculating left, right, and center about what might happen in the ensuing movies. With Rogue One raising more questions than it answered, and with the well-known secrecy of the Star Wars franchise preventing any Game of Thrones-esque leaks, it looks like we’re going to have to wait another agonizing year wondering what will happen. And people are definitely wondering--everywhere you look, someone has posted a new theory about Rey’s parents or what will happen to Kylo Ren or who Supreme Leader Snoke might be.

While most of these theories are pretty sound (after all, anything is possible in a universe where Mon Calamari exist), there are some that are so unbelievably out there we can’t take them seriously. Even Darth Jar-Jar sounds more plausible than some of these theories--and that’s saying something.

Since we have a really, really long time before our questions will be answered, we might as well join in the fun by reading and sharing some of the internet’s wildest speculations. We’ve taken it upon ourselves to search every wretched hive of scum and villainy (or the dark recesses of for the craziest theories about what will happen in Episode 8. We suggest you grab a beer before you dive in--you’re gonna need it.

15 Leia Will Die Protecting Kylo Ren


We were all devastated to learn of Carrie Fisher’s recent death. A princess onscreen and a queen in real life, moving on will be difficult for all of us.

With Princess Leia playing a major role in the new trilogy, fans can’t help wonder what’s going to happen to her character now that her actress is gone. Rian Johnson has confirmed that all of Carrie Fisher’s scenes were finished at the time of her death, so we know we’ll see her in Episode 8, but unless Disney utilizes the same CGI that they used in Rogue One, we’re probably not going to see Leia in Episode 9. Fans have predicted that Leia’s absence will be explained away or covered with body doubles and archival footage, or she will die. Some fans have even asserted that her death occurred in Episode 8.

Some fans believe that Leia will die protecting Kylo Ren. Presumably this is linked to the theory that Leia will be Kylo Ren’s redemption, that she will lead him back to the Light Side. Fans believe that by giving her life for her son’s, Kylo Ren will turn back to the Light.

Frankly, if Princess Leia is fridged so that Hot Topic Model Kylo Ren can have a redemption arc, we are going to lose our minds.

14 Luke Will Kill Kylo Ren


Luke and Kylo Ren are almost definitely going to have a face-off at some point in the series. Their relationship echoes Obi-Wan Kenobi’s and Anakin Skywalker’s--when last they met, Kylo Ren was the student and Luke was the master.

While we can’t deny that it would be satisfying to watch Kylo Ren get run through with a lightsaber, we doubt Luke is going to be the one to do it, or that it will happen in this installment. For one thing, Episode 8 would be way too early for Kylo Ren to die. He’s the new baddie, and when he does die, it’ll be at the end of the series--otherwise, who would be the antagonist of Episode 9?

And Luke isn’t going to be the one to do it. Luke isn’t a killer, even when it’s Kylo Ren. He had the ability to kill Darth Vader and didn’t--not because Darth Vader was his father, but because he knew it was wrong. Similarly, Luke is not going to give in to the Dark Side and kill Kylo Ren.

13 Snoke Is Mace Windu- And Finn Is His Son


While Snoke is almost definitely an alias for a character introduced in the past, we highly doubt it was a member of the Jedi Council who was attacked and nearly killed by a Sith Lord. Nevertheless, some fans believe that Snoke is, in fact, the former Jedi Master. Their argument? Samuel L. Jackson has been a longtime proponent of the idea that Mace Windu survived Palpatine’s attack. Fans also believe that Mace Windu’s purple lightsaber indicates he has always had the ability to channel both the Light and Dark Sides (purple is a combination of blue and red), and that after Palpatine’s attack, Windu found himself a changed man. The lightning permanently disfigured him.

But it doesn’t end there. Fans also believe that Finn is Snoke’s son. Their theory is that the awakening in the Force is from Finn, not from Rey. Snoke raised Finn as a Stormtrooper so that he could keep an eye on him. Why raise him in obscurity? Because Finn did not yet show any indications of being sensitive to the Force. So Snoke raised him as a Stormtrooper and took on a new pupil--Kylo Ren. Kylo Ren knew about Finn and kept tabs on him, both for Snoke’s sake and so that he could make sure his master’s son would not become his rival.

We’re doubtful this could happen, and we definitely don’t want a Mace Windu who isn’t played by Samuel L. Jackson.

12 Han Survived


As much as we wish Han Solo was still alive, we know there’s no way he could have survived a lightsaber straight through his abdomen, so there’s no way this theory could be true. Still, denial is one of the stages of grief, so we can’t be too hard on these fans.

While there are several variations of the “Han Survived” theory, one of the most recent (and popular) is that Kylo Ren never stabbed Han to begin with. In this theory, Kylo Ren is a double agent working for the Resistance; he staged Han’s death so that Han could work below Snoke’s radar.

While we wish Han was, indeed, alive, there’s no way resident bad guy Kylo Ren would be a double agent. Kylo Ren and the Knights of Ren killed most of the Jedi--surely something that not even the most convincing double agent would do.

11 Phasma Is A Droid


We’ll be honest: this theory, while pretty out there, is also kind of...boring. It just seems like a waste of energy.

Basically, some fans believe that because of Phasma’s appearance, her lack of an obvious breathing apparatus on her helmet, the clipped way in which she speaks, and the likelihood that she’s going to survive the trash compactor, she must be a droid. Yeah. If Phasma is a droid, she was obviously programmed to resemble a human--or she’s self-aware enough to have learned to mimic a human. But if she is a droid...why? Did Snoke build her especially? Does the First Order know she’s a droid? Was she originally built as a droid, or is she like General Grievous--a human being turned machine? Who knows? Who cares? If Phasma is a droid, it’s likely not going to be a big plot point, so we’re not really sure why people have enough time on their hands to come up with this theory.

10 We'll Meet Grand Admiral Thrawn


Fans of the EU will be familiar with Grand Admiral Thrawn. Created by Timothy Zahn--the same author who penned EU legend Mara Jade into existence--Thrawn is considered one of the greatest and most legendary characters in the extended universe, in no small part because Zahn’s first book about him, Heir to the Empire, is considered the kickstarter to the EU. Written five years after the release of Return of the Jedi, the book revived interest in Star Wars and encouraged other fans to write and publish their own works of fiction.

Hopeful fans now believe that even though Lucasfilm has declared the EU no longer canon, Thrawn will make an appearance in Episode 8. While it’s true that Dave Filoni considered Thrawn as a character for Clone Wars and Star Wars: Rebels, we highly doubt Thrawn is going to appear in the actual films, especially since the new trilogy already has several bad guys.

9 Snoke Is Darth Maul


As much as we’d love to see Darth Maul return, we’re not crazy about the idea of him being Supreme Leader Snoke. Other fans feel differently. Some have theorized that the mysterious identity of Supreme Leader Snoke is actually the one-time apprentice of Darth Sidious. Darth Maul, for those who don’t remember, was chopped in half at the end of The Phantom Menace. In the animated show The Clone Wars, however, it is revealed that Darth Maul survived the attack by crawling into a trash container. After being rescued by his brother, Savage Opress, Maul was taken to his home planet of Dathomir and “repaired.” Taking his younger brother as his apprentice, Darth Maul sought vengeance against the Jedi who had injured him and left him for dead--Obi-Wan Kenobi. Maul got his revenge in the form of killing Mandalorian Duchess Satine Kryze, a woman with whom Obi-Wan was in love, and Maul continued making appearances in The Clone Wars and Star Wars: Rebels. Because of this, fans believe that it is possible that Supreme Leader Snoke has been Darth Maul this whole time.

While it would be undeniably awesome to see Darth Maul heading up the new Empire, we doubt he would take an alias (especially one like Snoke--come on, how is that cooler than Darth Maul?) or transform his appearance so much. After all, what does Maul have to hide from?

8 Snoke Is Ezra Bridger


Fans of Star Wars: Rebels will be familiar with Ezra Bridger. Born on the same day the Galactic Empire was established, Ezra was orphaned and left to fend for himself from a young age. Ezra is Force-sensitive, and many fans have reached the consensus that the series will either end with Ezra’s death or with his turning to the Dark Side. Since we haven’t met Ezra Bridger in the films, it’s safe to say that he’s probably going to die.

Some fans disagree, believing that not only will Ezra turn to the Dark Side, but he’ll take up Darth Sidious’s mantle and lead a new empire and a new order of Force-sensitives under the guise of Supreme Leader Snoke. Ezra does have an intense encounter with Darth Maul in Rebels, so it’s not totally out of the realm of possibility that he would be trained in the Dark Side...but as for him becoming Snoke, we just can’t see it. It’s highly unlikely that the films are going to incorporate a character from an animated series, especially if it means turning a beloved young hero into a crusty old villain.

7 Hayden Christensen Will Come Back


Hayden Christensen hasn’t done a lot since Star Wars; the prequels, already pretty bad, weren’t a great showcase of his abilities, and it’ll be hard for audiences and casting directors alike to separate him from his breakout role. Christensen has tried to distance himself from Anakin Skywalker, but fans believe he may just be willing to embrace his destiny as the "Chosen One" and return for Episode 8. No one is entirely sure in what capacity he might return--a flashback? A Force ghost? A vision who appears to his wayward grandson? Something bigger and crazier than all of our wildest dreams? Who knows?

Hate to break any hopeful hearts, but Hayden Christensen probably won’t be returning for this or any other Star Wars film. Just like Christensen, Disney has quietly worked to distance themselves from the prequels, and bringing back the prequel poster boy is a surefire way to annoy the more stubborn fans who like to pretend that the prequels never happened. There also isn’t a believable way for the films to bring back a young Anakin or his ghost without going to a lot of unnecessary effort, something the franchise probably won’t do on Christensen’s behalf. Sorry, Hayden.

6 Snoke Is A Hologram Created By Kylo Ren


Fans who have seen movies like Secret Window, The Uninvited, and Fight Club believe that Snoke is Ben Solo’s Tyler Durden--as in, he’s all in Ben’s head. As in, Kylo Ren is talking to himself Gollum style; which is especially funny considering Andy Serkis plays both Snoke and Gollum. The theory goes that Snoke is the manifestation of Ben Solo’s mental illness combined with his proclivity for the Dark Side. Betraying his family, killing his fellow Jedi, and becoming the very evil his parents fought to destroy was too horrifying an idea for him, so he created someone who would compel him to do these things--Snoke.

But how, you may ask, is Hux able to talk to him? Easy. Kylo Ren created a hologram, which he controls using the Force.

It’s pretty out there, and were it not for Hux being able to communicate with Snoke, it might hold water. But since we know Hux can see Snoke and communicate with him, it’s safe to say this is one theory that isn’t going to happen.

5 Kylo Ren Will Become A Good Guy


Not only is this something that probably isn’t going to happen, but it’s something we don’t want to see happen. Kylo Ren is our resident bad guy. The Force Awakens literally opens to reveal him killing an entire village, and it’s later revealed that he killed all the other jedi at the temple where he trained, and let’s not forget how he stabbed his own father. This is not the behavior of a good guy, and this isn’t a "Gotcha!" moment from Lucasfilm, either--this is Kylo Ren being a straight-up villain. You don’t have a guy kill his dad in one movie and then become a good guy in the next. And fans who believe Kylo Ren will become a good guy don’t seem to have a clear idea of how it will happen or why, so why should we even take this theory seriously?

And with the exception of Leia and teenage white girls who love romanticizing white male psychopaths, who would even want Kylo Ren to become a good guy? No one, that’s who.

4 Snoke Is Darth Vader's Servant In Rogue One


Fans who went to see Rogue One may remember the servant who comes to Darth Vader while he’s soaking in bacta fluid and tells him that Director Krennic has arrived. Some believe that this servant later became Supreme Leader Snoke. No one seems to have any evidence other than the servant clearly respecting Darth Vader, wearing a robe, and not having a name (that we know of). The best anyone can figure is that he hero-worshipped Darth Vader and wanted to become the next Sith Lord. Why his appearance has changed so drastically, no one can say.

There are a lot of reasons this theory doesn’t work, the biggest one being that the servant has very little significance for us. How would Episode 8 pull off that reveal? “I used to be Darth Vader’s servant. One time I told him Director Krennic was coming.” Uh, I don’t think so. That servant was clearly supposed to be an indicator of Darth Vader’s ridiculously over the top lifestyle, not foreshadowing for the future Supreme Leader of the First Order.

3 Luke Has Turned To The Dark Side


Basically, the theory says that Luke turned to the Dark Side way back in Return of the Jedi during his face-off with Darth Vader and Emperor Palpatine. While we all thought Luke remained strong in the Light, this theory says that Luke actually realized the extent of his power through the Dark Side and tapped into it. Perhaps the reason Luke regretted his father’s death is not because he mourned his father’s return to the Light, but because he wanted to rule the galaxy as father and son just as Anakin had suggested in The Empire Strikes Back.

While Luke has not been outwardly evil, he has let the Dark Side guide his actions. When he created the new Jedi Temple, he trained those pupils in the Dark Side--including his nephew, Ben Solo. Though Kylo Ren believes he turned to the Dark Side, the truth is that he had already been trained in the Dark Side and was only tapping into more power.

We can’t imagine a scenario where Disney would agree to our golden hero from the original trilogy being an agent of the Dark Side, but man, imagine if they did!

2 Attack Of The Clone Theories


There are so many theories about clones in Episode 8 that it’s not even funny. Rey’s a clone, Finn’s a clone, Kylo Ren is a clone. Snoke is a bad clone of Palpatine and that’s why he looks the way that he does. Kylo Ren will get his wish and the First Order will authorize another clone army. One of Jango Fett’s clones will make an appearance.

Why people are obsessed with thinking there’s a clone in Episode 8 is unclear to us. Let’s be real: the clones aren’t that cool. Sure, the clone army in Attack of the Clones was an interesting twist, and the animated Clone Wars series was pretty good, but why the sudden obsession with clones? Even if one of the major characters was a clone, why does that matter? It won’t drastically affect the plot.

Find something better to talk about, Internet. This is boring.

1 Jakku Used To Be Scarif


According to this theory, the planet shown in The Force Awakens as Jakku used to be another planet--Scarif, the same planet that was destroyed at the end of Rogue One. How and why? The planet was not fully destroyed by the Death Star. Instead, only part of it was destroyed, and what was left was a barely inhabitable wasteland. Scarif would have been removed from Imperial records after its destruction, or would have at least been noted as no longer existing. Because so many ships had crashed into and on Scarif, the desert planet became an attraction for scavengers like Unkar Plutt. It was named Jakku by its inhabitants, who had long since forgotten the name Scarif. Pretty cool, right?

A variation of this theory claims that Jyn Erso actually survived the explosion and became Rey’s mother. She returned to Scarif years later to hide her daughter from danger, believing that the First Order would have no knowledge of the planet.

While this would be an amazing turn of events, we unfortunately can’t see Disney pulling this off. Oh well.

Sources:  moviepilot, huffingtonpost, reddit

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