Oprah interviewed seven leading Time’s Up women to get their take on the movement and where it will go from here.
In an interview on CBS’ Sunday Morning, Oprah Winfrey asked some of Hollywood’s biggest movers and shakers about the Time’s Up movement, an organization dedicated to ending gender-discrimination and harassment in the workplace. The interview posed a range of far-reaching questions on how the very fabric of society should look in the near future.
But it also served as an introduction for the movement and its leaders - or lack thereof.
"At this moment it's a campaign," said Tracee Ellis Ross of Black-ish. "And we're all sort of workers among workers and women among women, sort of rolling up our sleeves and doing whatever sort of comes to the forefront."
"Well, how do you get things done with no leader?” Oprah asked.
"Well, we're women!" Ross replied.
That they are: seven women from all walks of Hollywood life. There are actresses Tracee Ellis Ross, America Ferrera, Natalie Portman, and Reese Witherspoon, as well as media executives like Lucasfilm president Kathleen Kennedy and producer Shonda Rhimes. Nina Shaw, Hollywood attorney, rounds out the panel of seven women and members of Time’s Up.
One of the largest questions to answer in the campaign is whether or not Time’s Up is a strict entertainment industry movement or if it will grow to encompass all industries. Oprah asks the question: "Beyond raising awareness, how is this going to help the waitress, the farm worker, the factory worker, the caregiver?"
"We have to maintain the momentum of this conversation because they can't," replied Kennedy. "It's not only in what we're doing with a group like Time's Up, but it's in the content we're creating, the conversations we're having. We have to continue this work because we do have the spotlight."
So far Time’s Up has raised over $16 million for a legal defense fund they will use to help victims of workplace harassment.
Oprah also asked the panel one of the thornier issues with workplace harassment: how do you nail down an appropriate punishment for an elusive and unquantifiable offense?
"The question, Tracee, is: how is this measured? How do we make the punishment fit the crime for somebody who's saying, 'I was just complimenting you,' versus somebody who is actively a predator?”
Oprah continued, "And once someone has been accused of this bad behavior, this inappropriateness, is there, do you believe, a path to learning and then overcoming those mistakes and doing better? Is there? Where is forgiveness in this?"
Time’s Up offered two very different replies.
"I think there's a lot of room for reconciliation,” Witherspoon offered. “I think there's a time to approach people and tell the truth and have them listen thoughtfully and meaningfully, and apologize sincerely."
Shonda Rhime’s response was far less forgiving. "At a certain point, there has to be room for reconciliation in a world, in a weird way. But a lot of people don't think that right now -- and a lot of women have the right to not feel that right now."
You can check out the interview in the video below.