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15 Things About Westeros That Make No Sense

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15 Things About Westeros That Make No Sense

As one of the most popular shows in television history, Game of Thrones is discussed A LOT. One of the most frustrating things for fans is the presence of articles like this one, pieces that pick apart a fantastic show. Over the years, there have been countless discussions about mistakes, plot holes and nonsensical things in Game of Thrones. For most fans, however, the problem isn’t with criticizing the show. The main problem with these pieces is that few, if any, of the errors listed are ever real errors. Most are just silly little things that people get hung up on. Many are interpretive, relying on the suspension of disbelief in the audience. This is, after all, fantasy. Westeros does not follow the same rules as Earth.

That being said, there have been mistakes. Some are editing mistakes, so minor that no one cares. Some mistakes still have perfectly good explanations. So, here’s what we won’t do. We won’t be talking about the melting point of gold and how the show might have been off by a few degrees. We won’t be talking about improper hair length or hair color. We won’t be talking about the validity behind magic or fantasy either. We will look at the mistakes, both real and alleged, and we will discuss the possible explanations. While each of these things don’t appear to make any sense, there are other ways of seeing them. It turns out, perhaps not so surprisingly, that the Game of Thrones team is a pretty capable group. There are not many mistakes in the show and even in the few that do exist, there are explanations that make them seem perfectly acceptable. Oh, there might be spoilers here folks. Get up to date! Still, here are 15 Things About Westeros That Make No Sense.

15. The Sand Vipers

The issues with the Sand Vipers have been many on the show. Part of the reason these beautiful but terrible characters are hated by so many die-hard fans is because their portrayal in the books (and the portrayal of Dorne) is so good and the show mucked that all up. More than any other place, Dorne got the short end of the stick. Not everything in the books could get the full treatment. Dorne drew the short straw. Now, we don’t care about how quickly the Sand Vipers travel or how implausible their appearance on the boat to kill Trystane Martell was. What we care about is that these young women are psychopaths for no real reason. As the daughters of Oberyn Martell, a man who seems to be kind and intelligent, the Sand Vipers are painfully illogical. Take the scene when they torture that poor guy for no reason. He came to them freely with information. They repay him by burying him up to his neck and letting scorpions walk around his face. Then they brutally kill him. That’s it. Their choice of weaponry is also confusing. Sure, you can have unique weapons all you like, but you might want a sword as well for when a whip or a spear doesn’t make sense. You can, however, excuse the girls a little by saying they are young women who are angry, emotional, and have an exaggerated version of their father’s recklessness. You could say they’ve lost all sense of reason in favor of rage.

14. Praying To The Wrong Gods

Even though more people pick on Robb’s wedding in front of the wrong Gods, we won’t be dealing with that. Besides, Robb’s mother honored the Seven, so it’s not crazy for him to have a multifaceted faith. The issue we will discuss is one that the showrunners have admitted was a mistake (or an oversight). It was a very small one at that. We’ve included it because it was noticeable to many. The error came when Rickard Karstark said, “I would carve out my heart and offer it to the Father if he would let my sons wake from their graves and step into a prison cell.” Now, it doesn’t take a die-hard fan to realize that the Karstarks are from the North and honor the Old Gods. The Father is one of the Seven. Yet, even though this is a mistake and they’ve owned up to it, the line still does make sense and can be interpreted differently. What if what Karstark was saying actually meant, “I’d even pray to the Father if that’s what it took to get my son’s back?” So, really, the line makes sense and shows Karstark’s dedication to his family.

13. The Damn Hounds

Ahh, the bloodhounds. People love talking about these hounds. There are a couple of things that viewers love to point out about the hounds. These are points that drive many fans nuts because it shows a true commitment to nitpicking and a resistance to accepting anything we didn’t see on screen. We’re including the hounds because so many people cry about them. Some ask about the hounds who disappeared after Brienne killed their masters. Well, those were search hounds not attack dogs. They weren’t about to fight a warrior. Then there’s Ramsay’s hungry hounds. Honestly, we don’t see what the fuss is about. So, Ramsay tells Jon that his hounds haven’t eaten in seven days. These are the only two people in the conversation at this time as Sansa had already left. Later, Sansa repeats this line. This has caused people to ask, how did Sansa know? One answer is: the writers made a mistake. This is what many people want to hear. The other answer is: Jon told her off-screen. The one you choose will tell you a lot about the kind of person you are.

12. Fast Travel

This is a thing in Westeros that plenty of people pick on. They say, how can a raven travel more than halfway across Westeros in a day? We’ll admit that travel does seem to get fast tracked when needed, but we’re not mad about it. For one, the alternative is something like The Walking Dead where it takes an entire season to walk three miles. We also don’t know how fast ravens can fly or how long a day is in Westeros. There are also some explanations available for every alleged mistake. Take the latest episode, Season 7 Episode 6, in which the speedy timeline has been heavily criticized. While the showrunners did admit that they “fudged the timeline a little bit,” everything in the episode is possible. While it might not make sense in our world with our ravens, the ravens in Westeros certainly don’t fly at normal speeds. Did you spot how fast these birds were going when Bran used them to check on the Night King’s movements? Also, we have no idea how long the group was North of the Wall. Without giving spoilers away, it’s possible they were there for upwards of four or five days. That would be enough time to allow for the travel we saw.

11. Miraculous Healing

We’re as tired of talking about this one as you are reading about it, but we’re listing all of the things that don’t make sense in the show and this is one that appears to make little. Injuries heal quickly in Westeros because we don’t know how much time passes. Let’s look at the biggest example, Arya. So Arya gets slashed across the gut. She also gets stabbed very deeply twice and the knife is twisted. To survive this vicious attack, Arya has some soup and a nap, a fine remedy. We’ll accept that, even if we don’t like it. Then it gets strange. Before she’s fully healed from this assault, Arya is doing flips around the city and acting as nimble as ever before. While theories of how she survived, from faking the injuries to the Many-Faced God protecting her, may be true, the best explanation for how she’s jumping around after her injuries is just that she had more healing time than we’re considering.

10. Live Free or What?

Way back, when the men of the Night’s Watch visited the always pleasant Craster and his wives, many of us heard something that we weren’t sure we heard right. The confusion is because it didn’t make a whole lot of sense and had to have been a mistake. The mistake comes in a line from Gilly. She says, “This is our place, our husband keeps us safe. Better to live free than die a slave.” Well, yeah. Obviously. But we don’t think you mean what you think you mean. It’s very likely that she meant to deliver the line from the books, the line that makes much more sense, “Better to die free than live a slave.” There’s also the possibility that Gilly, an uneducated wildling woman, is prone to making mistakes in her language. This sounds like a line she heard someone else say. She’s just repeated it backwards.

9. Wildfire Caches

Here’s what we know about the wildfire under King’s Landing. The Mad King had a plan to destroy everyone and everything and Jaime knew about it. He killed the king and killed off all who knew the secret. Now, considering Jaime, his sister and his entire family lived in King’s Landing, not to mention all of the other innocent people, it’s strange that he has no issue with them all living on top of a ticking time bomb. Wildfire also gets more dangerous and more temperamental as time goes on, but Jaime does nothing about it. Sure, he may not know where it all is, but send some people to look into it. Now, there is an argument to be made that moving the old wildfire might be more dangerous than leaving it be. You can argue that but it doesn’t explain why Jaime doesn’t seem at all worried that King’s Landing could go up in smoke at any time. Also, why is Varys, the man with all those spiders, the man who uses the underground tunnels religiously, completely unaware of these caches of wildfire. You would think that if he really cared about the city and the realm he might be worried it could blow up at any time.

8. The Spear Throwing

Maybe you’re of the opinion that the Night King was using Jon and company to lure in a bigger catch. Ok, we can get on board with that. He wanted him a dragon, so he waited for one to show up. We don’t necessarily take issue with this spear-tossing ability the Night King has. Yet, we do have to ask, why not throw anything at the group stranded on the island? Instead of waiting for the ice to freeze to kill them, why not pick them off? You may say that he really likes his spear or maybe it is special and dragon-worthy. So don’t throw a spear or don’t throw that spear. Throw icicles. Hell, with an arm like that, the Night King could have killed the group with snowballs. Now, you could argue that he needed Jon to lure out Dany and the dragons, but, once the raves were sent, he could have started chucking things at the gang nonstop.

7. The Prophecies

Before we even get into this, let us just say that few of the prophecies given in Westeros have been perfectly accurate. We shouldn’t expect them to be bang on. Still, if you’ve spent any time reading about Game of Thrones online, you will have heard about the alleged plot hole regarding Cersei’s prophecy. When Cersei was young, she met the witch, Maggy the Frog, who told her she will have three children. Now, if you’ve ever sat down and recorded Cersei’s family tree, you will recall that she’s actually had four, at least, that’s how many she told us she had. There were the three who were sired by Jaime; Joffrey, Myrcella and Tommen, and the one that died as a child. You can, however, argue that the fourth child, the one who allegedly died an infant, was never actually born. That would mean that Cersei lied to Catelyn about it being “a fighter.” Or Maggy was just a little off in her prophecy.

6. Sibling Rivalries

We’re not going to jump all over the frustrating relationship evolving between Sansa and Arya. Too many people are complaining about both of these characters, saying that they’re both playing too much out of character, which we don’t necessarily agree with. Yet, we do have some issues. Arya is mad about Sansa writing the letter. She’s mad that Sansa was posing as a fake-Lannister in order to save her own life. Perhaps she expected Sansa to lash out and kill the Lannisters when she had the chance, but obviously that would have been a stupid move. Arya is angry and is blinded by her anger. She knows that careful plotting is sometimes necessary. This follows the same logic as Jaqen Hqar not just up and killing Tywin at Harrenhal. He could have done it, but it would have taken time. Hell, when Arya was posing as Tywin’s cup maiden, why didn’t she just kill him when she had the chance? Because that would have been stupid. She knew this at one point. When did she forget?

5. Where Is The Three-Eyed Raven?

Bran has been known to disappear from time to time, but enough is enough. Having the Three-eyed Raven around would be really helpful right about now. Yes, he sent ravens all over Westeros to tell of the Night King’s movements, but, even if flying a huge group of ravens is his only power right now, he could be insanely useful. Maybe fly ahead of the group north of the wall. Signal to them that there is danger coming. Caw once for a clear path, twice for a massive horde of white walkers right around the corner. Or, use the enormous flock of birds to shelter the dragons. Use them to hinder the Night King’s impeccable aim. Do anything Bran. Where are you Bran?

4. Where is Ghost?

Now, after seeing the end of Season 7 Episode 6, we know that having Ghost North of the Wall wouldn’t have been easy to shoot. It would have been hilarious to see, but not easy to film. So, in terms of filming logistics, we know why Ghost was absent. But, in terms of the story, it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. In the books, Ghost is always with John. We understand that CGI direwolves are costly to create, but Game of Thrones is a costly show. Can we please not forget about the direwolves? It seems like it’s happening. There is no way that Jon would ever travel south without Ghost. It’s just totally out of character for him. So where is Ghost anyways? Is he just hiding in the crypts of Winterfell with Bran?

3. Sharpening Valyrian Steel

Even though no one in the show has ever come out and said explicitly that Valyrian steel blades never need to be sharpened, the implication is there. In the “History and Lore of Westeros,” we hear from Jorah Mormont that “nothing holds an edge like it.” He also says if you take a whetstone to it, you’ll need “a new whetstone” and maybe “a new hand.” For this reason, we see Ned and Brienne merely cleaning and oiling their Valyrian steel blades, Ice and Oathbreaker, respectively. But then why in the hell do we catch Jon sharpening Longclaw? While it’s likely a mistake, there is a reasonable excuse. It’s possible that Jon was simply honing the blade and not sharpening it. Even still, you would think that “keeping an edge” would mean you don’t need to hone it either. Furthermore, the fact that sharpening a Valyrian blade risks losing a hand, it would make sense that honing it has the same risks.

2. Arming Giants

Listen, WunWun’s death scene was pretty epic. Having him bust through the gates of Winterfell with nothing but his hands was great. We see the benefit in filming it this way, but really, it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense story-wise. If they would have given this massive giant any sort of weapon, he could have done a lot more damage during the battle of the bastards than just ripping guys in half with his bare hands. Give him a spear, forge him a sword, uproot a tree. He could have broken through the gates a lot easier if he was carrying a huge tree trunk. If nothing else, this just seems like a missed opportunity.

1. The Lannister Necklace

Even though we don’t believe this is a mistake, we’re including it to give us a reason to explain this alleged plot hole. This apparent error comes in the threat against Myrcella that the Dornish Vipers apparently sent Cersei. In a crazy contraption, a viper head is holding a necklace in its jaw. Cersei tells Jaime that there are only two necklaces like it in the world, the one she has and the one Myrcella has. Fans jumped all over this because, in season one, Joffrey gives Sansa a necklace, a necklace that she says is exactly like the one Cersei has. Sure, this could be a mistake, but we strongly doubt it. In our minds, there are two possible explanations. Either Littlefinger got a hold of Sansa’s necklace and is using it to keep Cersei occupied while he plots away OR Cersei is fully aware that there are three necklaces and is using Sansa’s necklace to help convince Jaime to go to Dorne. We subscribe to the latter theory. In fact, we’re certain of it.

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